(CQ = about 7 yards or less.)

I also have read that some PD/Agencies teach both Sight Shooting and Point Shooting.

As Point Shooting and Sight Shooting are often discussed and debated at length on the web, I think that many in both the police and civilian arenas would be interested in learning about what type of shooting is taught in PD/Agencies.

So I asked some PD's and Agencies via e-mail and web boards, to respond to the questions below. Their responses follow the questions.

I also have made other contacts and researched the web and found additional sources such as POST standards that directly impact this subject area. That info follows the answers to the questions.

The data is rapidly aging and limited.

QUESTIONS:

1.  Does your PD/Agency teach Sight Shooting (the 
    use of the sights to aim and shoot with?  Y/N

2.  Does your PD/Agency teach a type of Point 
    Shooting (shooting without the use of the 
    sights), for shooting at CQ or at night?  Y/N

3.  Your PD/Agency is? __________

RESPONSES: 

As of 12/03/03......

Q1  Q2   PD/Agency          Comment
__  __   __________

Y   Y    Fort Smith, ARK

Y   Y    UofW Police, WA    Based on personal 
                            range contact 12/03    

Y   Y    Kirkland, WA       Based on personal
                            range contact 12/03

Y   Y    Ithaca County, NY  Deputy 

Y   Y    WNC                Sheriff's Office 

Y   N    CA Central Coast   Point Shooting only 
                            at very close range 

Y   Y    Texas PD           250 + Sworn  

Y   Y    Muni PD in CA      90-99 officers 

Y   N    ....               Mostly marksmanship 
                            with some point 
                            shooting  (P1)

Y   N    ....               SWAT team point 
                            shoots (P1)

Y   N    Rural MO           First 2 Qual shots  
of 50 are at 2 yards from the hip and no sights 
allowed.  Sights OK for other qual shots. (P1)

Y   N    Bethel Alaska PD.  Training is 
standardized with The Alaska State Troopers and 
the Anchorage PD as well as other departments in 
the state as far as I know.
	
Y   Y    Municiple PD, 150+ sworn	

Y   Y    Barrett Township PD, Monroe County, PA.	
	
Y   N    1 hand unsighted fire at < 3 yards 

Y   Y    Vader Police Dept. and...Firearms 
         Academy of Seattle, Inc.

Y   Y    Bellevue, WA

Y   Y    Portland OR Police Bureau

Y   Y    In Qual. shoot 6 rounds from the hip at 
         about 10' Hilton Head

Y   Y    Civilain Contract Guards providing 
         security at Fed. Bldgs.

..........

Here are qualification standards for various 
States and organizations based on web searches
in early 2004.  The distances and rounds fired 
are a clear indication of the type of shooting 
involved.  

YARDS  ROUNDS  TIME   SHOOTING STANCE

Lousiana POST
 2      6
 4     12
 7     24
25     18 

Minn   50 Rounds in total
  < 7  50%
 7-14  40%
15-25  10%

Calif. POST
 3     12      30sec  Hip Level
 7     12      30sec  Point Shoulder
15     12      45sec  Sight
A B17 target is used, and a passing score is 29 
hits within the 7 ring which is roughly 16" wide 
by 24" high.

Texas TCLEOSE
0-7    30
7-15   20
       50 total   

Rhode Island
< 21 ft  80%
> 21 ft  20%

Conn. POST
0-7   50%
7-15  30%
> 15  20%

Fulton Co GA
 2    6
 3    9
 7   16
15    4
25    1